Showing posts with label social security administration. Show all posts
Showing posts with label social security administration. Show all posts

Thursday, July 25, 2013

With Just One Click . . .

It is unbelievable to me how much stress one inflexible bureaucrat can create. 

My head pounds.
My stomach turns.
My mind races.

My breath has been taken away by a young woman at the Social Security office who has somehow decided Robert no longer qualifies for SSI or Medi-Cal.

She even insinuated I was lying to her.

I stared at her in disbelief.

I am not sure how this happened. All I know is it felt like I had been hit by a mac truck when walking out of the Social Security office. 

I really don’t know where to begin or how to cut this short. 

Bear with me.

When I took over Robert’s care at the end of 2008, he was getting Social Security and SSI benefits as well as Medi-Cal (the California equivalent of Medicaid).

My very first blog post was about the difficulties in changing Robert’s address from one county to another. (Be warned - it is long. This was written before I realized a blog post shouldn’t be as long as a mini-book.)

Things have not changed (with Social Security or my lengthy blog posts).

When Robert first moved to Sacramento, he was in a Skilled Nursing Facility while he recovered from an infection.  Once he was better, he moved into a Residential Care Facility for the Elderly (an Assisted Living Facility) under a waiver program.  He then moved into New (now old) Home.

With each move, I notified all the involved agencies: Social Security, SSI and Medi-Cal. 

Robert’s Social Security and SSI benefits were always adjusted depending on what type of facility he lived in.  His Medi-Cal benefits automatically renewed because he was on SSI.

I became his Representative Payee through Social Security so I could make changes on his behalf and not have to drag the poor guy into the Social Security offices.  I thought this would be an efficient way of dealing with Social Security while avoiding long waits.

After Robert moved into New (now old) Home, his Social Security payments seemed to be too much. Medi-Cal was covering the cost of the Home but still they sent what seemed to me, more money than he needed.

I made sure Robert had everything he needed and wanted but there was money left over each month. I called (several times) to verify the amount Robert should be getting.  Each time, I was told it was the correct amount.

When completing the first year report as the Representative Payee, I called to ask how to account for the savings.  I talked to one person who acted like I was a criminal for saving money. I then talked to the local office who again reassured me the amount was correct and guided me on how to complete the form.  

Call me cynical but it didn’t seem odd to me that the government would pay an amount more than was needed yet discourage people from saving it. However, I didn’t think I should spend the money unnecessarily.  After all, we were considering moving Robert in with us and if there was extra money we could use that for home modifications to accommodate Robert.

In the back of my mind, I also thought that if they were actually overpaying Robert I certainly didn’t want all that money spent. I assumed if there was an error they would eventually want the money back.

I sent in the form and didn’t hear anything about it.

Recently, I completed my second report.  On the form, there is a question about whether or not the consumer had moved within that time period.

Yes! Finally, Robert moved in with us!!  Goodbye, New (now old) Home!! Hello, actual home!

I answered the question affirmatively (although there wasn’t a spot for all those exclamation points).

Again, I accounted for the savings.

Soon after electronically filing the form, I got a call saying I needed to go into the Social Security office to make the address change.

This made no sense to me.  I already made the address change.  In fact, the woman at Social Security that I spoke to in mid-March said she would type up a note and send it to the local office so I wouldn’t have to physically go into the office.  She was such a sweetheart, I talked with her supervisor to give her kudos.

They wanted to see me so I made an appointment and gathered all my paperwork beforehand.  I was anxious about the appointment because I still worried they were overpaying Robert. 

Before leaving work for the appointment, I even joked with my best friend that she’d have to bail me out of Social Security jail.

The woman I met with was no-nonsense.  I tried being friendly while she typed my information into the computer but she didn’t smile or respond. She asked questions about our living arrangements (centering on whether or not Robert ate with us or bought his own food). 

Let’s be clear: the Rocky Road ice cream is Robert’s!

I told her I wasn’t sure why I had to come in because of my conversation with the rep in March and her telling me I wouldn’t have to go into the local office.

Ms. Bureaucrat said, “There’s no record of you ever calling Social Security.” Was that smugness? An accusation?

What?  That’s impossible. I told her who I talked with and what number I called.

She said, “Ma'am, I don’t know Darlene.”

Oh for heaven’s sake! Of course you don’t know Darlene – there’s probably a million people employed by Social Security!  

Did I call the right number?

“Ma’am, that number is for the WHOOOOLE United States.” (Complete with hand gestures to indicate just how big the United States is in case I didn’t know.)

Wow.  She’s not only a bureaucrat but she’s condescending.

I repeated that there have to be notes in Robert’s account that I’ve called.  I explained I called numerous times.

She just stared at me.

She then asked about the savings. I told her I had saved what was not spent each month which added up over the year. I explained that it was put in Robert’s Special Needs Trust so that neither he nor I have access to it because it was over the $2,000 threshold. I told her that it was going to be used for home improvement for Robert.

She repeated that there shouldn’t be any savings and that part of that money was to pay for his housing.  I explained the housing was paid for by his Regional Center or Medi-Cal.

She said that is not possible. Board and Care homes are not covered by Medi-Cal.

Um, well, he lived there for a couple of years and, trust me, I would have heard if they weren’t getting paid.

I told her I could contact Robert’s Regional Center rep and she said she would call him if I had the number.  

To her surprise, I produced it.

She called and left a message while I sat across from her.

She then said because Robert was getting more than the allowable threshold, Robert’s SSI would stop.  I actually didn’t really care about this.  After all, at this point, he’s only getting $35 a month from SSI.  That’s fine.

“And he will lose his Medi-Cal.”

Whoa!

He can’t lose his Medi-cal.  His medical expenses are outrageous between doctor visits, prescriptions, hospital stays and briefs. I don’t care if he loses all of his monetary benefits but he can’t lose the medical.

“Well, he still has Medicare. Plus, you can apply for Medi-Cal through the county.”

She then went on to tell me we would have to pay back the overpayment.

By this time, I was not only stunned but also confused.

Why in the world is he losing his SSI and Medi-Cal?  He has always had these. He’s been disabled since he was a child. 

I don’t understand. She couldn’t/wouldn’t explain to me why he was losing his benefits other than Social Security is paying him more than the threshold. I asked why the amount wasn’t adjusted as it has been in the past so he isn’t over the threshold.

She didn’t answer but jumped up in her seat and said, “Oh, I might be able to stop the SSI in August.” 

With one click she stopped his SSI and Medi-Cal.  She turned to me and said, “I couldn’t stop it in August but it is stopped effective September 1.”

The disappointment in her voice was noticeable.  I think she expected me to tell her how sad I was for her.

With one click (and one very unhelpful bureaucrat), Robert has lost his Medi-Cal benefits.

I will have to appeal her determination once I officially get it while I simultaneously apply for Medi-Cal through the county.

More to come as the situation develops.

For now, I need to take something for my headache.



Friday, July 6, 2012

Struggling with Social Security? You’re Not Alone – So Are the Employees

Let me start out by saying I am not a criminal. Well, except, there was that one time I got a speeding ticket (for those who have driven with me, I know how hard that is for you to believe).

Then there were those teen years when I TP’d a few houses of friends.  That’s not a crime, right?  If it is, certainly the statute of limitations has run out (she asks hopefully).

Oh, well, um, there was that time I distributed anti-military spending flyers at the Open House of an Air Force Base and was quickly escorted into a room full of very serious military police to “talk.” 

That scared the crap out of me but I was not arrested – just told to leave and not return.  No problem!  Thank you for your time!  Sorry to bother you! 

Phew.  (Thank goodness I didn’t TP the military base.)

Nope, I have not been arrested.  I may be a heart-on-my-sleeve liberal but I am definitely not a criminal. (We won't discuss my college years where I went a little off the rails; still, no arrests).

For this (overall) rule-abiding citizen, the Social Security Administration agency recently sure had a way to make me feel like I was trying to pull some sort of fast one.  

After caring for Robert for a couple of years, I applied to become his Representative Payee.  Since the Social Security Administration doesn’t recognize a Durable Power of Attorney, it was the best way for me to avoid sitting for hours in a waiting room with Robert to change an address.  (It didn’t matter if he was asleep as I did this as long as the agent could verify he was there).

As Robert’s Representative Payee, I can call the local office on Robert’s behalf and they will actually talk to me (and Robert can sleep at home)!  I can also go online to take care of many tasks on his behalf.

Such as completing my first Representative Payee report.  It’s a very simple form with just a few questions and is available online so it really couldn’t be any easier.  The expenses are lumped into three main categories and the Representative Payee calculates what they’ve spent within each category over a period of one year.  This was easy to calculate since I keep all receipts for anything spent by Robert or on behalf of Robert and have a detailed Excel spreadsheet with all of his expenses for each month.

I did have a question, however, about the money I’ve saved for him.  Robert has a Special Needs Trust and some of his money is saved in that trust for his future medical needs.  The Social Security Administration website didn’t answer my questions so I needed to talk to an actual person.

After calling the toll free number, listening to several automated options, choosing the wrong one and being unable to undo what I just chose, calling back, choosing the right option, holding for at least twenty minutes, I was finally talking to a real live person! 

Please, please, please do not let us get disconnected, I pleaded in my head.

After verifying I was who I said I was and verifying Robert’s information, I was able to ask my question. How do I indicate on the form that Robert has a Special Needs Trust and a checking account and that some of his money has been saved in these accounts? 

“What do you mean, you’ve “saved” money in his accounts?”

My brother has money left over at the end of the month and I save it for him.

“Ma’am.  His money should be spent for his benefit. You should not have any money left over to save.”

Okay.  Well, I do. He’s well dressed, he is never without briefs or 7-up or reading glasses and I have some money left over.  I’m sorry?

There’s a spot for “savings” on the form so this can’t be that unusual.  My question is about differentiating the Special Needs Trust account and Robert’s checking account.  How do I account for that on the form?

“Ma’am.  I know for a fact you shouldn’t have any money left over.”

Okay.  Look.  I have called the Social Security office several times over the last 18 months and emailed the original rep that set me up as the Representative Payee to confirm Robert was getting the correct amount of money.  I actually thought he was getting more than he should but each time I called, the representatives looked up the account, verified all the information and told me he was getting the correct amount.  I've talked to New Home and they said I have to call Social Security.  I've called Medi-Cal and they confirmed they had Robert's correct address and his correct living situation. 

So I have money left over that I save for his future medical needs or housing or medication that Medi-Cal won’t pay for. 

“Ma’am.  You need to go into your local office with your question. You should not have any money to save.  Do you know where that is, ma’am?”

Yes. I spent many hours there before becoming the Representative Payee which I thought was going to save me time by being able to resolve issues over the phone!

This woman’s attitude was rude and accusatory from the start of our conversation.  She had me so discombobulated, I didn’t even realize until after we hung up that she hadn’t even bothered to look at Robert’s account to verify he was getting the correct amount. 

I was dreading going into the local office so tried my original rep again.  The phone number she gave me had been disconnected.  Great.

After finding the new number and trying my luck with whoever answered the phone (after being on hold for quite some time, of course), I was able to speak to a local representative who answered my question about the two accounts and how to account for them on the form. 

I asked him to confirm the amount Robert is to receive each month since I was concerned I was either going to jail or having to repay thousands of dollars. He said the type of home Robert lives in had been verified by one of their agents and he assured me Robert was getting the correct amount of money each month between Social Security and SSI.

He was even nice about it!

My first Representative Payee form has now been completed online and my stomach has released most of the knots it was in worrying that I was doing something wrong.

The conflicting information given by different representatives is astounding to me and still leaves me with nagging doubts about who is correct.  Given the few experiences I’ve had with Social Security, it is really no wonder the agency has such a terrible reputation. 

How are the disabled or the elderly and their caregivers supposed to be able to navigate the system when the employees can’t even do so!  The system is unnecessarily complicated and needs to be simplified.  At a minimum, representatives need to be uniformly trained so the users can be given the same (correct) answer when talking to any representative.

Now can someone please help me down from this soapbox before the MPs show up?